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Subject: Re: Ruffian 0.76 is still playing incredible strong!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:44:05 09/20/02

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On September 20, 2002 at 07:34:02, pavel wrote:

>On September 20, 2002 at 02:17:19, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>Again, this is _not_ the same thing.  Yace improved a lot, quickly.  But the
>>>>author was here participating in discussions, present on ICC, etc.  So he
>>>>didn't just "drop out of the sky".  When _that_ happens, suspicions are bound
>>>>to be tweaked...
>>>Actually, Dieter started posting in here and log in to ICC much later IIRC.
>>>At first he only used to post at winboard forum IIRC.
>>It is not important for this discussion.
>As I said (you snipped): "Not that it has anything to do with anything. ;)"
>>The point is that the author of Ruffian does not post in the winboard forum and
>>I do not know that he post in another forum.
>The point is that it is possible to not post in winboard forum and other forum
>but come up with a strong engine.
>I don't see programmer of Fritz brag about his program and perticipate in any
>Why is it not possible for someone else?

You miss the point completely.  Frans _has_ attended _many_ wmccc and WCCC
type events.  While he doesn't discuss "secrets" he does discuss chess and
fritz/quest all the time.  Again, he didn't just drop out of the sky.  Neither
did Lang.  Ed.  Hirsch.  Slate/Atkin.  Thompson.  Hyatt.  Hsu.  nor any of
the more recent micro programs...

If someone is developing a strong program, they almost certainly have input
from somewhere...  Or they are playing it against other players.  There is no
incentive to develop a chess engine in a dark cave with no lights.  Part of
the fun is busting humans...  And that makes it public.

>Does his silence means that there is something fishy about his program?

He isn't "silent".  He's been participating at computer chess events for
a _long_ time.


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