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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 vs Hiarcs 9 30 games..enjoy

Author: Chesster Fritz

Date: 06:00:02 01/26/04

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On January 26, 2004 at 05:09:33, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On January 25, 2004 at 20:12:06, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>How can you make a statement of knowledge based on unknown facts as you do here
>>with your statements that H9 agg/hyp is better than S8 at blitz.
>
>i can make a statement based on the facts i have and i have seen.
>you can make a statement based on your facts.
>
>
>>I still await to see a pgn of all these server games?
>
>no.
>i do not post the games.
>
>
>>Better still maybe you could e-mail me your CB database internetgames and then
>>we can see if you have any real data to prove what you claim.
>
>i do not need to prove my claims. I have seen the games on my machine. And i do
>trust myself :-) There is no need to prove it for you.
>
>Fact is that the server shows the hardware of the opponent, the average ply
>depth, the threads, the K NPS.
>
>so i see when somebody has a faster machine. Also i see which engine he uses.
>
>Most people on this server play with shredder 8 and fritz8.
>these are the usual programs you have to play against.
>
>i normally do play 3+2 up to 15+3 because i do not like to see senseless games
>where one side is 3 pawns ahead but loses due to time out.
>
>it makes IMO not much sense to MEASURE playing strength using this time
>controls.
>IMO you do not measure playing strength but how fast a program plays.
>
>the faster moving program is not the stronger program.
>
>in the last seconds of a blitz game, the result often changes.
>
>this destroys the statistic.
>
>blitz games make IMO sense if you play for fun, but not if you want to measure
>something.
>
>the smaller the amount of time is, the smaller IMO the sense of those data.
>play 1" for a game and you get the time out before the programs left opening
>book. You cannot really say that this makes much sense to measure strength.
>
>if shredder is so strong, why do those people with faster hardware do not win ?
>seems to be voodoo :-))

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