Author: Uri Blass
Date: 16:27:17 12/25/04
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On December 25, 2004 at 18:18:55, Albert Silver wrote: > >>>As far as I understood, the complaint wasn't of the download links, but of >>>accessing and hacking the site. >> >>If this is the case forbiding arena links in the winboard forum is not >>productive to save the winboard forum. >> >>I also fail to see how it is productive to ban the arena team even if their >>complain is not justified. >> >>I am not for closing the winboard forum and I will be happy to read some post >>that explain how the steps that volker did can help to save the winboard forum. >> >> >> >>Note that I decided even not to try to join the arena forum not because the fact >>that they asked personal details but because of what I read about the way that >>they treat other people. >> >>The last forum was closed after a lot of personal attacks. >>Later it seems to me that there are people that they simply hate regardless of >>what they do. >> >>I remember a post that said to peter skinner that they will not give him the >>right to host arena in his site in a million years when they give it to other >>people. >> >>They have the right to do it but it seems to me an hate decleration and it gives >>the impression that peter skinner did something unforgivable. >> >>There are extreme cases of crimes that no money will be enough to compensate for >>them but if somebody did not do a crime like that I see no reason to say some >>message that means "we always hate you regardless of what you do". >> >>Even stealing is something that I can forgive(at least in case that I believe >>that the thief is really sorry for his actions and pay enough money to give back >>more than what he stole without trying to escape the agreed punishment of the >>law for his actions). >> >>Uri > >You are correct on the arbitrariness of the Arena decisions regarding >membership, as I am persona non grata there for no good reason. At first I >thought it was some form of error, so I drew Christopher's attention to it in >CCC a number of times, but now it is clearly a deliberate act, and I sincerely >believe it is due to a degree of megalomania. > >I don't wish them poorly though, since at the very worse, Martin Blume deserves >full credit for his wonderful interface, but the whole structure surrounding it, >meaning the site and above all the extreme paranoia, is a real shame. > > Albert I understand your point. Note only that my opinion is that I do not understand how banning the arena team or forbidding links to arena can help to save the winboard forum. This is the only relevant question. I cannot support volker because I was not convinced that his actions can be productive to save the winboard forum. I think that even an unjustified complain of all the people in the arena team is not a good reason to ban them from the winboard forum with no more reasons. I can understand it but not support it. banning people from a forum should be done only because of bad posts that they make or because not banning them risk the existence of the forum or in some extreme cases like banning someone who use the name ausama binladen. If the claim is that not banning the arena team risks the existence of the winboard forum then I fail to understand how it risks the existence of the winboard forum. It is clear that it is impossible to prevent them to use faked names and I do not see what demage they can make in their name that they cannot make with faked names Uri
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