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Subject: Re: Athlon 1,1GHz

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 05:55:42 02/14/00

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On February 14, 2000 at 02:59:14, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On February 14, 2000 at 00:27:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>Before you pop off, why don't you visit Kryo's web page?  They claim to be
>>using 750mhz parts.  So they are overclocking by 33%.  No I don't think dropping
>
>I think that when Kryotech started selling the 1GHz machines, AMD's top of the
>line was 750MHz. So they obviously have to say that they are overclocking 750MHz
>parts. However, the industry rumor is that AMD can raise the Athlon's clock
>speed without breaking a sweat. Also, AMD is working with Kryotech on these 1GHz
>machines. I wouldn't be surprised if AMD has been giving Kryotech specially
>sorted processors that run > 850MHz without special cooling.
>
>>the temp 40 degrees will get anywhere near that.  Otherwise we would be up to
>>our armpits in such machines.  Even new crays still use air-cooling.  Reckon
>>they would take advantage of that if it existed?
>
>Maybe. I was just reading about what Kryotech has done to avoid condensation,
>and it seems very involved and high-tech. They're definitely not just connecting
>the processor to a 'fridge. Maybe Cray didn't want to spend its time designing
>all of this stuff on its own.
>
>-Tom


Sorry.. but if you go to the US Patent office, the _only_ patents that were
applied for during the development of the _original_ cray 1 were cooling
related.  1970's era ECL logic produced a world of heat.

And yes, the condensation problem is serious, and the Kryotech guys spent a lot
of time solving the problems.  They had no choice.  And as I said, I can't say
anything about what they got from AMD, but I know exactly what they were doing
with Digital as a friend in hardware development up there was involved in the
kryotech alpha project.  They didn't jump thru hoops for the kryo guys at all
at Digital.



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