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Subject: Re: What made Deep blue good? What will make programs much better now?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:34:36 07/08/02

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On July 08, 2002 at 02:28:03, Slater Wold wrote:

>On July 08, 2002 at 00:32:42, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On July 06, 2002 at 20:15:06, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I suspect that search may see that the right move help to push the opponent king
>>>>closer to the corner relative to the wrong moves and it may be enough.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Yes, that looks like the best thing to try and work on, doesn't it?
>>>
>>>If not, can I ask two questions?:
>>>1)What should be done during the near future to push computer elo forward as
>>>much as possible?
>>>2)If Deeper blue was really much stronger than todays tops, what was that due
>>>to? Better long-term planning? Seeing deeper?
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>
>>Huge speed.
>>
>>It was doing most things worse than the best micro programs, but it was doing it
>>so fast that it was eventually stronger.
>>
>>Hum... Let me rephrase for the sensitive people out there. There was nothing
>>Deep Blue did better than the best micro programs. But it was so fast that it
>>allowed it to hide its defficiencies.
>>
>>Shit. That's not very diplomatic either. Let's try again: Deep Blue was build
>>around a concept outdated by 2 decades but fortunately it was so fast that
>>nobody noticed until their creators published their paper.
>>
>>Oops... OK, once again:
>>
>>Bob likes Deep Blue a lot, and that should be a reason good enough to convince
>>you that it was well designed.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe  ;-)
>
>I too am a DB fan.  Just like Bob.
>
>But I actually agree with you here.  I don't think DB did anything
>*spectacular*.

I totally disagree.  Their speed _was_ "spectacular".  And that was _the_
point of Deep Blue, after all.  Not the point everyone _wants_ to be the
point of deep blue, but _the point_ the team developed over 10 years...




>
>But I also know that Program X will be a _LOT_ stronger on hardware 100,000x
>times faster than anyone else has.  No matter how horrible the software side is.



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