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Subject: Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 12:11:32 08/20/02

On August 20, 2002 at 14:07:08, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On August 20, 2002 at 10:54:20, Sune Fischer wrote:
>
>>Half the programmers here should get a Ph.D if this is the standard for a
>>masters.
>
>As Marc Boulé pointed out in another post, a master's thesis doesn't require any
>new material. A PhD requires completely original work. I think people are mixing
>up the requirements and thinking it all has to be new material. That's just one
>thing I've noticed in reading all of the replies. I've never written a master's
>thesis, or read very many, so I can't personally say whether this is a good one
>or not.

He quoted:
"A thesis for the Master's degree must show familiarity with previous work in
the field and must demonstrate ability to carry out research and to organize
results."

To carry out research can mean different things in english, but since it also
mentions "familiarity with previous work" I assume doing research here means to
do _original_ science. You need to be able to do both of course, stand on the
shoulders of those before you _and_ take the next step.

The difference between a master and a Ph.D. (here in DK) is that the Ph.D. is a
greater project, often lasting three times as long and you get paid while you
study. You have no supervisor as you have during the masters, you are on your
own and need to prove you can do research for yourself and solve the problems
that pops up.

When writing a Ph.D. you are expected to publish articles, that is not expected
for a masters.

Perhaps the rules differ elsewhere.

-S.

>I enjoyed it though, even if I already knew most of it. I think regardless of
>whether or not it's a good thesis, it is a good paper. In reading it I got many
>new ideas (not directly from the paper, but it made me think of new ideas). I
>think it is similar to how they recommend that you re-read a chess book after
>every 200 point ELO improvement, because you will understand things you didn't
>pick up on before.
>
>Anyway, according to the requirements put forth by Marc Boulé in his response,
>this sounds like a master's thesis to me, but not a PhD thesis.
>
>Russell

Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Mogens Larsen 12:45:29 08/20/02
- Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Sune Fischer 14:07:19 08/20/02
  - Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Mogens Larsen 14:49:21 08/20/02
    - Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Sune Fischer 15:24:43 08/20/02
      - Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Mogens Larsen 00:32:10 08/21/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Sune Fischer 01:08:27 08/21/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Mogens Larsen 01:29:51 08/21/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Sune Fischer 03:48:57 08/21/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Mogens Larsen 04:14:59 08/21/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Sune Fischer 05:27:44 08/21/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Mogens Larsen 07:04:53 08/21/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Sune Fischer 08:52:06 08/21/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Mogens Larsen 10:49:06 08/21/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Sune Fischer 11:21:15 08/21/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Mogens Larsen 12:06:32 08/21/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Sune Fischer 15:55:53 08/21/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Albert Silver 10:38:13 08/22/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Miguel A. Ballicora 11:14:00 08/22/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Albert Silver 11:34:55 08/22/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Mogens Larsen 03:20:00 08/22/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Sune Fischer 06:55:38 08/22/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Mogens Larsen 08:23:14 08/22/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Sune Fischer 13:00:00 08/22/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Mogens Larsen 16:19:24 08/22/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Uri Blass 07:13:00 08/22/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Sune Fischer 07:33:13 08/22/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's The Steffen Jakob 05:42:46 08/21/02
      - Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Dann Corbit 15:32:06 08/20/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Sune Fischer 15:45:01 08/20/02
        
        Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Dann Corbit 15:49:53 08/20/02
  - Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Russell Reagan 14:16:52 08/20/02
    - Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis Sune Fischer 14:40:48 08/20/02

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