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Subject: Re: Mig's article on 2005 WCCC, plus short interview with A. Cozzie

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 14:30:59 09/09/05

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On September 09, 2005 at 16:16:28, Peter Kappler wrote:

>
>http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/archives/2005_computer_champ.htm
>
>Regarding Fritz's non-participation and Chessbase's failure to give the event
>any coverage on their website, Mig writes, "Basically they feel the publicity
>and scientific returns from comp-comp events have diminished to the point of
>negativity".

I thought the comment by "PD" , who I assume to be following computerchess news
and events only occasionally, was interesting and thoughtful:

"Fruit is heavily tested and is about the same strength as Shredder 9. It's
freeware. Equally strong is Turk II, which is also free. Spike beat Shredder 9
at Chess690 recently, and it too is free to download.

I don't know how its possible, but the good days are over for the Chessbase team
of programmers. Six months ago Shredder 9 was the gold standard for all computer
chess programmes. Its position was dominant. Neither Fritz nor Junior could keep
pace. Now these amature programes come from nowhere and outperform the Chessbase
stable. It goes without saying that all perform beyond human abilities, so
there's no question that chess engines have lost commercial value. They will
become part of other chess products, such as training cd's etc.

Perhaps the challeng now is to write chess engines that improve human play. What
would that be like?
Posted by: pd at September 9, 2005 15:24 "

--

When it is about Mig's report, he sounds like a loyal ChessBase employee to
defend them without them being attacked at all, kind of preemptive defense.

I wonder when for the first time I will hear the significant amount of games
argument commenting on human championships btw. For unknown reasons humans need
much less games to find a valid champ ;) .

At least Mig reports that Zappa is the champ, something you wouldn't be able to
conclude from recent CCC discussions :).

Oh btw - I just went to the toilet and probably won't buy the Ktulu chessprogram
. I think both is of similar news value :)

Cheers
Peter





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