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Subject: Re: And the reason to purchase CSTal is what again?

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 14:24:17 08/22/99

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On August 22, 1999 at 15:46:22, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On August 21, 1999 at 20:03:10, pete wrote:
>
>>>CSTal is not free. If it has a bug, it SHOULD be fixed.
>
>there is no bug !
>it sometimes oversteps time-control. this is no bug.

You are the one talking nonsense. This IS a BUG BUG BUG. You are practically the
only one on this forum who thinks it is not a bug. If it oversteps the time
control, it loses. It has been posted in another message that it did this with
one move to go to make the 40 moves and 4 minutes left on the clock in a won
position.

There is a difference between a weakness in a program where it does not see a
strategy and a bug in the time management. People expect programs to have
positional weaknesses. Just like people expect humans to have tactical
weaknesses. People expect programs to have perfect time management. People
expect humans to have weaker time management. There is a difference between
programs and humans REGARDLESS of how much you want to make a program play like
a human. Saying that overstepping the time control is a feature of the program
is pure luancy.

Take a step back, pretend you are not so involved with CSTal, and ask yourself:
As a customer, would you appreciate a feature where the program loses a won game
due to it mismanaging it's time? If some other program did that, you would
probably not think it was a WONDERFUL FEATURE.

>it is legal to do so.

Of course, the program CAN do it. But, it is NOT LEGAL. It is illegal to do it
and still win or draw the game, just like it is illegal to move pawns backwards.
Are you saying that if you do not get caught, it is ok (just like if CSTAL moved
a pawn backwards and did not get caught, it would be ok)?

>it is surprising but not a bug.
>
>> Chris has no problem
>>>taking the money from his customers, therefore, he should have no problem fixing
>>>ALL of the bugs.
>
>Nonsense !
>
>
>> Defending his actions shows that you are a true friend, but it
>>>also shows a lack of concern on what is really important.
>
>More nonsense. it only shows that you don't know what is important.
>
>
>> As a true friend, you
>>>should also be concerned about Chris' reputation in our small community, even
>>>though Chris may not be concerned about it.
>
>Even more nonsense. Chris is not interested to get reputation
>in a group of programmers talking about statistics/results instead of
>chess-moves.
>
>
>>>Evidently, Chris has the freedom to ignore these types of things. But, that will
>>>not endear people to him or CSTal. I made a decision some time back to NOT
>>>purchase CSTal mainly on Chris' reputation. My choice. As it turns out, maybe
>>>that was not such a bad decision after all.
>
>
>>>KarinsDad :|
>
>
>You are free to do whatever you want.
>you talk about something you have never seen.
>this is a prejudice.

As per your words, nonsense. I can read reviews and listen to the opinions of
people I respect and come up with my own opinion based on that. I do not need to
play with the program myself to come up with an opinion. In fact, I occasionally
ask people here for their opinions on programs in order to make informed
purchasing decisions.

KarinsDad :)



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