Author: Andreas Guettinger
Date: 02:51:17 02/04/03
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On February 03, 2003 at 19:05:27, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On February 03, 2003 at 18:54:54, Peter Hegger wrote: > >> >>...how is it that they now consistently play at the 2700-2800 level? Against >>Kramnik (2810), against Bareev (2729), and now against Kasparov (2807), a >>program is turning in a 2807 performance and very much _holding its own_ >>Calling any modern program a 2500 player is akin to calling the above mentioned >>super GM's 2500 players. >>It also looks to me as though the SSDF list is getting closer to the reality of >>the true state of program prowess than (admittedly) it use to be. >>Any comments welcome. >>Regards, >>Peter > >A pity that you do not read. Show events are NOT a possible tool to calculate >the strength. And hard competition doesn't exist. That's it. I still hold >that comps are 2400 at best in fierce tournament chess. > > >Rolf Tueschen First of all, I agree that humans play a lot better chess than computers. I.e. DJ did not mananage to get a reasonable attack against Kasparov in the current match. Humans seem to be much mure creative chess players. On the other hand, I doubt that the average rating performance of computers are much less than that of humans. Or say, they have the same Elo than top players. I.E. the human plays a top game with 47 good moves on a high level and 3 blundering moves in it and will lose against the computer. If it is a 2800 player, then the computer may have played the weaker moves, but won in the end and deserves reating of that level too. All in all, computers have a much more well-balanced playing performance, where human make top moves and blunders in their games. That's why computers are such good defenders. It can be often seen in human-human games that if one side has a clear advantage, the oter player already has given up the game and both sides get along with dubious moves... So, if you give the computers 2400Elo, then the humans deserve not more.
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