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Subject: Re: Why Did Junior Underperform So Badly In Bilbao?

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 07:58:41 10/13/04

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On October 13, 2004 at 10:51:30, Peter Skinner wrote:

>On October 13, 2004 at 10:34:50, Graham Laight wrote:
>
>>At the risk of being argumentative, I'm afraid I disagree with your view.
>
>That is allowed from time to time :)
>
>>Between them, Fritz and Hydra score 7/8 in Bilbao. I have just run the >simulator
>>(http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?391364) for an 8 game
>>tournament, with the win probability at 33%, the draw probability at 34%, and
>>the lose probability at 33%. If you truly believe that GMs can crush computers
>>at will (implied by you 4 paragraphs above), then these odds are very generous.
>>
>>The results?
>>
>>0.52% probability of achieving 7 points
>>0.09% probability of achieving 7.5 points
>>0.03% probability of achieving 8 points
>>
>
>Here is a scenario that I would like you to think about.
>
>Take the top 5 computers, and the top 5 GM in the world. Set them up in a "skin"
>format tournament where $50,000 per game is at stake. Time control is standard
>tournament time controls. The winner gets it all, the loser gets nothing, and in
>the event of a draw, the money is carried over to the next game.
>
>I am willing to wager that the humans take home 90% of the money. If not all of
>it.
>
>It is amazing that when money is on the line, the best human players shine.
>Computers know nothing of "stakes" in this type of event. Human nature, and
>greed will crush the silicons..

So - the human players at Bilbao (Ruslan Ponomariov, Véselin Topálov and Sergey
Karjakin) were simply not sufficiently well motivated, then?

-g

>Peter



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