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Subject: Re: Khalifman and Gelfand on computer

Author: Mogens Larsen

Date: 10:52:56 05/20/00

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On May 20, 2000 at 13:16:29, blass uri wrote:

Something tells me we've had this discussion before. Kinda deja-vuish :o).

>Boris Galfend's opinion:
>main strenght of chess programs (Fritz, Junior etc) are outside the program
>itself.
>
>I disagree.
>The most simple programs can play well without book.

Then what's the problem? Let it play without book and see what happens. It could
be interesting.

>I think that forcing them to play without book is unfair because if they knew
>that they will be forced to play without book they would write their program in
>a different way.

Then they should start writing their program in another way IMO.

>I believe that it is possible to take advantage of the weakness of Junior by
>getting it out of book early(there are many ways to do it) but unfortunately the
>opponents do not prepare against Junior.

If everything revolves around getting chess programs "out of book" then it's a
very artificial form of chess. I believe you said that chess programs can make
human players play better chess. The special kind of anti-computer chess style
won't do that, since it wouldn't be effective against most top human players.

>I hope that the opponents will prepare against Junior in the next tournament and
>will force Amir Ban to fix the problem.

I hope so too.

>I do not like the fact that Junior does not know important things about the
>opening like not getting out with the queen early but I do not think it is fair
>to force Junior to play weak by creating new conditions that Junior is not ready
>for them.

Since there were no conditions in the first place, they can't be broken. You're
inventing conditions that doesn't exist on paper, or anything else.

>The programmers develop their program under some assumptions and it is simply
>unfair for them to change these assumptions.

If it's their own assumptions then it's not unfair.

Sincerely,
Mogens



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