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Subject: Re: So why *does* Fritz beat Crafty?

Author: blass uri

Date: 00:55:25 03/27/99

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On March 27, 1999 at 03:47:47, David Dawson wrote:

>On March 27, 1999 at 01:34:14, blass uri wrote:
>
>>The real test is to give Crafty and Fritz the same rights to choose every
>>machine that money can buy (including parallel machine) and do a match between
>>them at tournament time control.
>>
>
>Seems to me the only thing this will test is the 2 machines.
>
>>If Fritz5.32 cannot earn from parallel machine then it is Fritz's problem
>>because the possibility to use parallel machine is part of the crafty's >program.
>
>The Fritz company really has nothing to gain by including multi-processor
>support. The investment would likely be greater than the return, and Fritz is a
>money making project, not a hobby as crafty is. When you put time into your
>hobby you tend to go for "pure excellence" rather than something that looks good
>and is cost effective.
>
>>
>>If Fritz can win Crafty in this test then Fritz is better than crafty.
>>otherwise the reply may be machine dependent.
>>
>>Uri
>
>The question: "which program is better" is somewhat ambiguous. I think it
>depends on how you define "Crafty".  Now, if "crafty" is not a program, but a
>self-contained chessplayer such as Deep Blue (or Hyatt's 4x200 machine) we might
>as well forget all about chess programming "knowledge" and start building the
>supreme multi-processing computer. The only competition will be other SMP
>programs.

I do not agree
I think that there can be a competition for non SMP programs if the programs are
better.


>
>However, if "crafty" the program is compared to Fritz, the only fair thing to do
>would be to match them on similar/identical systems.

It is not fair because part of the effort in doing the program crafty is by
doing it a parallel machine.
I believe that Bob could do in the same time a better program if he did not
waste time for doing a SMP program.

Uri



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