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Subject: Re: A crippled TIGER is still much better than a full strength CRAFTY :)

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 15:10:33 10/31/99

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On October 31, 1999 at 04:04:41, Peter McKenzie wrote:

>On October 31, 1999 at 02:28:52, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On October 31, 1999 at 00:02:37, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>
>>>On October 30, 1999 at 17:52:02, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>

(snip)

>>>>I would not be surprised if Chess Tiger 12.0 on PII-300 was able to stand Crafty
>>>>on a Quad-Xeon. After all that would only be a 4x speed advantage for Crafty. :)
>>>>
>>>
>>>You talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?
>>>I'll look forward to seeing tiger on ICC.
>>
>>I'll do when I have some free time.
>>
>>Is there something in what I say you don't find reasonnable?
>
>To be honest I find the tone of your post somewhat distasteful.


Really Peter?

Probably you have missed the recent cute exchange between Bob and Amir? Bob
using words like "full of snot".

If you find my message "distasteful" I'm wondering what you would have said
about Bob's.

You missed it, did you?

What I wanted to point out in my message is that Crafty, that some are taking as
a reference, is YEARS BEHIND the top programs.

Not only behind Tiger in fact. I'm pretty sure you can repeat the same
experiment with the top commercial programs, namely:

  Fritz5.32
  Rebel10
  Hiarcs7.32
  Junior5.0
  Nimzo99
  MChessPro6.0
  Shredder2
  Genius5


As a measure of how much it is behind I would say that in my opinion it is at
least 100 elo points behind.

That's HUGE.

That's why I think Tiger on a PII-400 would stand Crafty on Quad-Xeon.
Unfortunately I have only a K6-2-300, so I'll have to try the experiment (if Bob
agrees) with a 4x handicap, which probably translates to a 120-160 elo points
handicap.

Is it that distateful to point out that Crafty is so far behind?



    Christophe



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