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Subject: Re: Dieps 700 elo-book in action:

Author: Arturo Ochoa

Date: 14:33:02 02/27/05

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On February 27, 2005 at 14:06:58, Peter Skinner wrote:

>On February 27, 2005 at 07:17:44, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>Well, Vincent said that if an engine play Elo 3000 than the book is giving in
>>these tournaments 700 points and the program is 2300 Elo strong.
>>
>>I do not think Diep is playing Elo 3000 so the Vincent's rule cannot be used.
>>
>>Sandro
>
>Diep wasn't even playing at a 2400 level at the IPCCC.
>
>With all the games (well all games that were actually posted) from the event and
>using a start value of 2400, Diep scored:
>
>Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
>
>  1 Hydra                          : 2810  239 220     9    88.9 %   2449   22.2
>%
>  2 Shredder                       : 2715  320 296     9    83.3 %   2436   11.1
>%
>  3 Gandalf                        : 2566  214 205     9    61.1 %   2488   33.3
>%
>  4 Spike                          : 2499  267 247     9    61.1 %   2420   11.1
>%
>  5 Nexus                          : 2455  292 292     7    50.0 %   2455   14.3
>%
>  6 Ikarus                         : 2447  220 220     7    50.0 %   2447   42.9
>%
>  7 Anaconda                       : 2436  207 207     9    50.0 %   2436   33.3
>%
>  8 Jonny                          : 2428  207 207     9    50.0 %   2428   33.3
>%
>  9 SOS                            : 2418  207 207     9    50.0 %   2418   33.3
>%
> 10 The Baron                      : 2417  187 183     9    55.6 %   2378   44.4
>%
> 11 Diep                           : 2397  187 183     9    55.6 %   2358   44.4
>%
> 12 Neurologic                     : 2218  177 194     8    37.5 %   2307   50.0
>%
> 13 Patzer                         : 2208  177 195     9    33.3 %   2329   44.4
>%
> 14 Quark                          : 2169  205 229     9    27.8 %   2335   33.3
>%
> 15 IsiChess                       : 2150  248 286     8    25.0 %   2341   25.0
>%
> 16 Matador                        : 2041  173 291     9    16.7 %   2321   33.3
>%

Rg. 	Titel 	Name 	     Pkte 	Wtg.
1 	  	Hydra 	        8 	44½
2 	  	Shredder 	7½ 	43
3 	  	Gandalf 	5½ 	47
4 	  	Spike 	        5½ 	42½
5 	  	Ikarus 	        5 	42
6 	  	The Baron 	5 	39
7 	  	Diep 	        5 	37
8 	  	Anaconda 	4½ 	44
9 	  	SOS 	        4½ 	43
10 	  	Nexus 	        4½ 	43
11 	  	Johnny 	        4½ 	43
12 	  	Patzer 	        3 	35½
13 	  	Neurologic 	3 	34
14 	  	Isichess 	2½ 	38½
15 	  	Quark 	        2½ 	36
16 	  	Matador 	1½ 	36

http://wwwcs.upb.de/~IPCCC/IPCCC2005/r3.HTM
According to the Official Standing Table of teh Tournament, Diep was seventh and
not eleventh as you put in your table.

About your point, Diep was:

1) 6th. in Paderborn 2004: http://wwwcs.upb.de/~IPCCC/IPCCC2004/ranking.html
2) 4th. in 4th International CSVN Tournament:
http://www.computerschaak.nl/ict4tour.html
3) 3rd. in 12th World Computer Chess Championship 2004:
http://www.cs.biu.ac.il/games/results.html
4) 1st. in Dutch Open 2004: http://www.computerschaak.nl/docc04.html.

They are all the Official Tables and they don´t say that Diep was under 2400
Elo. I do not see that your table is proving anything.

By the way, the current responsable of the Book is Erdogan. I have just pointed
out the Diep performance for the year 2004. Less than 2400 Elo?!! :))) How could
your table prove that?

Arturo.



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