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Subject: Re: Crafty 17.10 not that strong

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 23:31:28 04/22/00

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On April 23, 2000 at 02:12:19, Chessfun wrote:

>On April 23, 2000 at 01:53:55, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On April 23, 2000 at 01:38:20, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On April 23, 2000 at 01:31:17, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 23, 2000 at 00:48:44, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 22, 2000 at 14:46:28, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 22, 2000 at 15:02:19, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On April 22, 2000 at 14:49:59, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On April 22, 2000 at 14:20:57, A.L.Mourik wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hello dear CCC friends,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Although earlier reports from e.g. Jouni Uski, suggest an enormous increase in
>>>>>>>>>strenght for Crafty 17.10
>>>>>>>>>Nuun 2 match result Fritz6 against Crafty  17.10 ends in a very clear
>>>>>>>>>29,5-10,5!! victory for Fritz6.
>>>>>>>>>Played on PII 400 8mb for HT, Timecontrol 5 min + 3 sec per move.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>There isn't generally an enormous increase in strength from version to version
>>>>>>>>of any program, that's unrealistic to expect there to be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Your time controls are a bit short there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Pete
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why didn't you say or ask that of Jouni when he posted?
>>>>>>>as all he said was blitz, that may even have been faster
>>>>>>>than this.
>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sorry, I don't read all posts, this one caught my eye because it was at the top
>>>>>>of the board.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You had posted in the thread I referred to.
>>>>>Which was Sensation Crafty 17-10 beats F6a in nunn1 .
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You'd need to post the html of the post where I responded to that, setting the
>>>>filters at 7 days and doing a search for "Sensation Crafty 17-10" does not turn
>>>>anything up.  I don't recall responding in such a thread.  But if you're
>>>>attempting to put me on trial for some comment that I may or may not have made
>>>>about Crafty, then you simply have too much time on your hands.
>>>
>>>
>>>It is fairly simple to set search for author.
>>>You made no comment for a trial, it was the lack of request
>>>for the time control of the blitz games then the statement in
>>>this thread that it needs longer time controls.
>>>
>>>But, since your last comment obviously means you take every question
>>>of your postings as an offense and feel the need to take a stab at
>>>anyone who questions anything you write, even the obvious questions
>>>posed by Christophe that you fail to understand, then don't worry I
>>>won't bother to reply in future.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>
>>Ok, I searched for "Jouni" and found what you're talking about, but you left out
>>a ":" when you quoted the name of the thread so my search didn't turn up
>>anything.
>
>
>Wouldn't matter what thread I quoted. A simple search by author
>would give you all posts you had made.
>
>
>>First of all, in that thread, I was responding to a comment that Fernando made,
>>not anything that Jouni said.
>
>You posted in a thread about crafty beating F6 at nunn 1 in blitz.
>You never questioned the time controls as you did in this thread.
>The difference Crafty was alledged to have won in the other thread.
>It lost in this one.

You're still trying to ignore that I was responding to Fernando's post, and not
to Jouni's,  I don't see that bothering anyone else.

>
>>Second, I didn't take back anything.
>
>Who asked you to take back. A simply asking the same question in the
>other thread was apt.
>
>>Third, Christophe was not being clear what he was asking "why" about.
>
>The question he asked is simple enough. You said these blitz times were
>too fast and that they are too fast to judge the strength of a program.
>He asked, why and can you explain. Since you had made these statements
>you must have evidence that these statements are correct.
>Seems simple to me.

No, _you're_ asking that question, Christophe didn't, he wasn't clear what he
was asking about.  Blitz games don't allow a program to search deep enough,
that's obvious enough that the question does not need to be asked.

>
>
>>And Forth, if you don't care for the way I respond to a post, then
>>don't read my posts,
>
>I won't in future, thanks for the tip.
>
>>I'm not likely to change just to suit you, and I'm not the least
>>bit concerned about your replying to anything I post in the future.
>
>Why would I expect you to be concerned?, still I think I have seen
>enough of your posts in the past....I really should know better.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>>Pete



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