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Subject: Re: Crafty 17-10 v Fritz 6a Two machines Nunn 1 @ 5 mins ?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:44:04 05/01/00

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On May 01, 2000 at 10:11:51, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On May 01, 2000 at 09:32:07, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>It isn't like the Nunn test itself doesn't skew results, remember.  IE the
>>opening book of the engine is eliminated, which means all the book learning
>>of the engine is eliminated. Now other forms of learning are eliminated.  This
>>doesn't exactly sound like a "useful test".  IE would it be interesting to take
>>two automobiles, remove one spark plug from each, drain the transmission on
>>both cars... (wait, one car doesn't have a transmission, just a direct drive,
>>oh well, drain the other)  and so forth.
>
>I agree with you most of the way, even though I'm trying to be less
>confrontational (fat chance) :o). What is your take on the one or two machine
>issue with ponder off. Will the autoplay feature (and various other differences
>from one to two computers) of two computers with ponder on, skew the comparison
>with one machine and ponder off? And if yes, how significant would it be? If
>not, be gentle about my ignorance :o).

I believe that ponder=on and ponder=off are two different things.  I don't
know how it will affect the results, because I don't spend any time testing
against anyone with ponder=off.  But I do know that ponder=off is _not_ tested
very well in my code because I consider it pointless to use it except for
testing/debugging.  If it affects others like it does me, then perhaps the
games are 'valid'.  If they have tested ponder=off to any degree, then the
tests are not valid.



>
>I must admit that the purpose of the test is starting to allude me as well, but
>maybe I'm just not paying attention.
>
>Best wishes...
>Mogens


I think a lot of the 'testing' is all about trying to prove that Crafty can't
play chess.  IE you start out with a conclusion, then you try to find a way to
make that conclusion happen...



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