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Subject: Re: But Not Yet As Good As Deep Blue '97

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 12:47:53 07/20/00

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On July 20, 2000 at 14:50:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 20, 2000 at 14:26:16, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On July 20, 2000 at 13:03:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>2 years ago a single DB chip played several matches with top commercial
>>>programs.  This DB chip was running at 1/10th of its normal speed, and yet
>>>it won 36 out of 40 games.  This has been reported several times here on CCC,
>>>by several that have heard Hsu and Campbell give talks about the DB hardware.
>>>
>>>If it could win 90% of the games running at 1/10th the normal speed for one
>>>chip, what does 480 chips at full speed get (hint:  4,800 times faster).  Would
>>>you think it might have a pretty easy time with today's programs?  quads or
>>>8-way boxes as you want?
>>>
>>
>>Games against P90 machines.  What were the program versions? what were
>>the settings?  Who was the operator?  Which book was used?  Where are
>>the games for inspection?  Did the DB team get permission to perform
>>this tournament and permission to report results?  Were you there?
>
>I was there.  The program authors were there.  That was a requirement for the
>ACM events.  We all sat across the board from each other.  Marty.  Ed.  Richard.
>Hsu.  Myself.  anybody else you would care to name...

Nah.... you are talking on late 80th's Rebel running on a 5 Mhz 6502
processor with 32 Kb Ram Rebel doing just 500 NPS. Your point again?

Ed


>
>>
>>This is all mythical at best.  Still no proof and non of the programs
>>were Deep Junior were they?
>
>and your point would be?  Deep Junior is far and away better than any other
>program playing today?  We can discuss that probability if you want...
>
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>No, but they must fly in yours...  In my neighborhood, DB still flies...
>>>
>>
>>Really, I thought DB was torn apart and in Deep Storage?  :)
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Chris Carson
>
>
>It could play in hours if the price was right. The hardware still exists...



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