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Subject: Re: Bob: ELChinito a clone from Crafty ...

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:45:35 08/22/04

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Let me clear up a few points:

1.  I didn't bring this up.  I gave up on this particular problem a year or two
back.  Human nature makes this an ongoing problem, and in years past others have
tried to pawn off copies of commercial programs as their own unuque work.  I can
recall one ACM event where someone was kicked out after being caught doing
exactly this.  So it is a problem that is going to continue, and about all that
can be done is for everyone to continue to be observant.

2.  I didn't "break the story".  I haven't even decided that this program is a
clone, although I will be the first to admit that the evidence presented at
least shows that the program copied large (if not all) chunks of Crafty, which
is still not a permissable activity.

3.  There are many others.  You can almost say with 100% certainty that when a
new program hits the street and it is as strong as Crafty, and the author is
previously unknown, the program is likely a clone.  There may be an exception
here and there.  But the programmers give themselves away over time by not
understanding their "own program" in great detail because they didn't write it.
I won't name names, but ICC and FICS have their fair share of clones.

4.  Don't lose sleep over it.  If someone isn't honest, there is little to be
done about it.  One dead give-away is that they will never participate in an
event where they are required to provide source and executable to the organizers
in cases where someone suspects foul play.  If you see a strong program that
doesn't participate anywhere, something is up, in at least 99% of the cases.



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