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Subject: Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm??

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 04:05:44 12/10/02

On December 09, 2002 at 22:26:11, Bernardo Wesler wrote:

>Do they consider it as an uthopy?
  Consider what as an uthopy? What is your question here?

>If so, what is the scientific reason?
  Idem

>If it was possible, how far are they from that point? Did they find any
>evidence?
  Away from which point?

>Anyway, which is the possibility to get a very powerful chess engine or program
>or soft that depends almost nothing upon the hardware?

  Hardware is very important if the evaluation of a program is very good.

  Of course putting gnuchess or crafty at 10000 processors
  doesn't make sense, apart
  from that making an algorithm that gives a positive speedup at 10000
  processors is 1000x more difficult to make than a program at the level
  of gnuchess.

  Evaluation dominates. I see at least 3 programs which are setting
  the standards towards progress in evaluation: Brutus, Shredder, DIEP.

  Also indicative is Fritz. The latest fritz also has way more evaluation
  than the old versions, though it still is very little compared to the
  above 3, whereas we must see Shredder as a kind of middle solution between
  the other 2.

  Shredder is very well tested basically.

>Thx.
>Dr Wesler
>blwesler@mail.retina.ar

Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Bernardo Wesler 10:42:36 12/10/02
- Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Vincent Diepeveen 16:14:51 12/10/02
- Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 14:30:47 12/10/02
  - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 14:51:40 12/10/02
    - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 14:56:49 12/10/02
      - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 15:05:15 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:24:40 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 04:20:26 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba 03:31:26 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 09:53:43 12/11/02
    - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 14:55:51 12/10/02
      - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba 03:46:14 12/11/02
      - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Anthony Cozzie 17:16:25 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 17:28:47 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 17:35:15 12/10/02
      - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Bob Durrett 15:24:47 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Angrim 12:21:35 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Bob Durrett 12:44:55 12/11/02
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        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 15:24:20 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:28:08 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? J. Wesley Cleveland 12:04:41 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 13:46:21 12/11/02
        
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        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 11:08:22 12/12/02
        
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        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 12:51:48 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? J. Wesley Cleveland 14:12:34 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 14:24:11 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Heiner Marxen 15:16:55 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? J. Wesley Cleveland 15:10:23 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:34:05 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dieter Buerssner 16:01:12 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 17:22:56 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dieter Buerssner 16:25:32 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 11:37:01 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 14:17:04 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 20:49:59 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Sune Fischer 03:03:36 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Heiner Marxen 07:23:12 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 07:59:33 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Heiner Marxen 11:03:36 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 11:03:12 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 03:29:40 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Sune Fischer 04:05:07 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Sune Fischer 04:37:50 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:39:09 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 15:19:43 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:31:38 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 16:46:44 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 16:54:24 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 23:10:44 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 09:55:16 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 09:59:11 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 10:23:23 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 10:46:45 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 10:54:08 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 11:12:06 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Bob Durrett 12:49:38 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 13:09:49 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Bob Durrett 13:41:55 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 11:18:00 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 11:34:24 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ralph Patriquin 15:56:36 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 11:46:00 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 12:01:52 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 13:39:53 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Heiner Marxen 07:53:35 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 11:02:05 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 10:53:34 12/11/02
      - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 15:02:46 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:19:24 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 15:25:46 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:30:42 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 15:44:55 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:54:33 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 16:16:06 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 16:36:21 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 15:08:38 12/10/02

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