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Subject: Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm??

Author: Bernardo Wesler

Date: 10:42:36 12/10/02

On December 10, 2002 at 07:05:44, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On December 09, 2002 at 22:26:11, Bernardo Wesler wrote:
>
>>Do they consider it as an uthopy?
>  Consider what as an uthopy? What is your question here?

THE ALGORITHM. A MATHEMATICAL FORMULA THAT , FOR EXAMPLE, ASSURE YOU THAT IF YOU
DO THE FIRST MOVE YOU ALWAYS WIN.
I MEAN TO THINK ABOUT DISCOVERING A CHESS ALGORITHM IS AN UTHOPY?
>
>>If so, what is the scientific reason?
>  Idem
I MEAN APPLYING THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD TO TELL WHY GETTING AN ALGOTITHM SHOULD BE
CONSIDERED AS AN UTHOPY..

>>If it was possible, how far are they from that point? Did they find any
>>evidence?
>  Away from which point?

IS ANYBODY WORKING IN GETTING THE CHESS GAME ALGORITHM??? IF SO, HOW FAR IS HE
AHEAD?
>
>>Anyway, which is the possibility to get a very powerful chess engine or program
>>or soft that depends almost nothing upon the hardware?
>
>  Hardware is very important if the evaluation of a program is very good.
>
>  Of course putting gnuchess or crafty at 10000 processors
>  doesn't make sense, apart
>  from that making an algorithm that gives a positive speedup at 10000
>  processors is 1000x more difficult to make than a program at the level
>  of gnuchess.
>
>  Evaluation dominates. I see at least 3 programs which are setting
>  the standards towards progress in evaluation: Brutus, Shredder, DIEP.
>
>  Also indicative is Fritz. The latest fritz also has way more evaluation
>  than the old versions, though it still is very little compared to the
>  above 3, whereas we must see Shredder as a kind of middle solution between
>  the other 2.
>
>  Shredder is very well tested basically.
>
>BUT, EXPLAIN TO ME, BECAUSE I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN PROGRAMMING, DOESNT THE EVALUATION DEPEND ALSO UPON THE HARD?
>
>
>
>>Thx.
>>Dr Wesler
>>blwesler@mail.retina.ar

Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Vincent Diepeveen 16:14:51 12/10/02
Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 14:30:47 12/10/02
- Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 14:51:40 12/10/02
  - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 14:56:49 12/10/02
    - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 15:05:15 12/10/02
      - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:24:40 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 04:20:26 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba 03:31:26 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 09:53:43 12/11/02
  - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 14:55:51 12/10/02
    - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba 03:46:14 12/11/02
    - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Anthony Cozzie 17:16:25 12/10/02
      - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 17:28:47 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 17:35:15 12/10/02
    - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Bob Durrett 15:24:47 12/10/02
      - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Angrim 12:21:35 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Bob Durrett 12:44:55 12/11/02
    - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:12:53 12/10/02
      - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 15:24:20 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:28:08 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? J. Wesley Cleveland 12:04:41 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 13:46:21 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? J. Wesley Cleveland 09:47:20 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 11:08:22 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? J. Wesley Cleveland 11:55:59 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 12:51:48 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? J. Wesley Cleveland 14:12:34 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 14:24:11 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Heiner Marxen 15:16:55 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? J. Wesley Cleveland 15:10:23 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:34:05 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dieter Buerssner 16:01:12 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 17:22:56 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dieter Buerssner 16:25:32 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 11:37:01 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 14:17:04 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 20:49:59 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Sune Fischer 03:03:36 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Heiner Marxen 07:23:12 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 07:59:33 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Heiner Marxen 11:03:36 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 11:03:12 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 03:29:40 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Sune Fischer 04:05:07 12/13/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Sune Fischer 04:37:50 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:39:09 12/10/02
      - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 15:19:43 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:31:38 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 16:46:44 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 16:54:24 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 23:10:44 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 09:55:16 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 09:59:11 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 10:23:23 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 10:46:45 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 10:54:08 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 11:12:06 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Bob Durrett 12:49:38 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 13:09:49 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Bob Durrett 13:41:55 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 11:18:00 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 11:34:24 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ralph Patriquin 15:56:36 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 11:46:00 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 12:01:52 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 13:39:53 12/11/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Heiner Marxen 07:53:35 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 11:02:05 12/12/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 10:53:34 12/11/02
    - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Uri Blass 15:02:46 12/10/02
      - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:19:24 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 15:25:46 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:30:42 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 15:44:55 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 15:54:33 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 16:16:06 12/10/02
        
        Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Dann Corbit 16:36:21 12/10/02
      - Re: What do programmers think about a chess algorithm?? Ingo Lindam 15:08:38 12/10/02

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