Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 17:02:44 09/19/02
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On September 19, 2002 at 18:21:10, pavel wrote: >On September 19, 2002 at 18:06:32, Uri Blass wrote: > >>>>>> >>>>>>That's the point. I can't imagine someone working on an engine, in a vacuum, >>>>>>for a decade, before anyone finds out about it. I can't imagine anyone writing >>>>>>a program in 6 months that would come close to beating _any_ top program. >>>>>> >>>>>>Anything is possible, I will agree. But the probability is so low that it >>>>>>will make people wonder... >>>>> >>>>>I hope you realize that you have essentially *publicly* leveled an accusation >>>>>without presenting any evidence. I would prefer in such cases that either an >>>>>investigation be conducted discretely or a wait and see policy be followed. >>>> >>>> >>>>I haven't leveled _any_ accusation whatsoever. I asked a direct question, >>>>pointing out what has happened in the past. I have _not_ said that this >>>>program is a "clone" or anything else, and you can feel free to find some- >>>>thing I wrote that does make that claim... >>>> >>>>As I said previously, I find it _hard_ to believe that a newcomer would be >>>>that strong. _not_ impossible, just _unlikely_. I stand by that... If some- >>>>one takes that the wrong way, fine by me... >>> >>>No offense. >>>But you had the same impression when YACE came out. >> >>Yace first release was clearly wekaer than yace of today. > >Yes I know that. >But the time between the first released version of Yace and the last version of >Yace was very short, if you consider the increase in strenth. >It was when Yace starting doing as good (or even better) that Bob thought it was >a crafty clone. >Later Dann verified himself and convinced Bob. > > > I don't remember that happening, but if it did, Dann can refresh my memory. I have never claimed a program _was_ a clone without proof. For Le Petite I posted the proof here in CCC. As I did for Voyager. As I did for Bionic Impact. As I did for ... >> >>>It is a fact that Yace came out of blue and became as strong as Crafty in a very >>>short time. >>>Same can be said about Aristarch, which also improved in a very short time. >> >>Aristarch first release was clearly weaker than aristarch of today. >> >>Aristarch also played before it was released in one of the CCT tournaments if I >>remember correctly. > > >Yes, true. >But the time differance between the 2 versions were short, consider the playing >strength. >Which goes on to say that it is very much possible to come up with a strong >version in a short time. > >Nothing impossible, nothing hard to believe. > >cheers, >pavs Again, this is _not_ the same thing. Yace improved a lot, quickly. But the author was here participating in discussions, present on ICC, etc. So he didn't just "drop out of the sky". When _that_ happens, suspicions are bound to be tweaked...
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