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Subject: Re: Commercial program strength vs. amateur program strength

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 10:35:46 12/20/01

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On December 20, 2001 at 12:59:13, Scott Gasch wrote:

>Commercial chess engines are, I think, much more heavily tested than typical
>amateur engines.  That contributes to their strength.  The stronger amateur
>engines like crafty and ferret are, because of the calibre of the authors, very
>rigorously debugged.  This is one of the reasons they compete on the same level
>as the pros.
>
>Commercial engines are not using any "unknown" board representations or search
>techniques.


How do you know?

1) I think my board representation is original. I have never found it anywhere
else. It's not 100% original, but what makes it really effective is definitely
something I have never found elsewhere.

2) My program as well as other commercial engines are using search techniques
that have never been published.



>Perhaps some are using forward pruning techniques that are not
>published anywhere.  The degree to which this affects their playing strength is
>debatable.


No it's not. It makes commercial programs clearly stronger.



>I'd be surprised if there was another technique like nullmove out
>there but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong...


There are plenty.

Null move is to chess what MacDonalds is to food. Quick and easy, not too bad,
but definitely not the final say.



    Christophe



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