Author: Uri Blass
Date: 14:43:18 11/08/04
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On November 08, 2004 at 16:25:48, chandler yergin wrote: >On November 08, 2004 at 12:05:19, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On November 08, 2004 at 11:31:59, chandler yergin wrote: >>>Oh, it finds it v-e-r-y- Quickly! >>> >>>Just doesn't think too highly of it! >>> >>>Looks like your 'immortal' game, is very Mortal. >>> >>>Ed - Rebel 12 >>>rnbq1rk1/pp1n1p1p/4p1p1/3pP1N1/1b1p1P1P/2NB4/PPP3P1/R1BQK2R w KQ - 0 1 >>> >>>Analysis by Shredder 8: >>> >>>11.h5 dxc3 12.b3 Qc7 13.hxg6 fxg6 14.Rxh7 Qb6 15.Ke2 Rd8 16.Bxg6 Kf8 17.Rh8+ Kg7 >>>18.Rxd8 Qf2+ 19.Kxf2 Kxg6 20.Rxc8 Nxe5 21.fxe5 >>> ³ (-0.45) Depth: 12/12 00:00:00 >> >>>11.h5 dxc3 12.b3 Qc7 13.hxg6 fxg6 14.Rxh7 Qb6 15.Ke2 Rd8 16.Bxg6 Kf8 17.Rh8+ Kg7 >>>18.Rxd8 Qf2+ 19.Kxf2 Kxg6 20.Rxc8 Nxe5 21.fxe5 >>> ³ (-0.45) Depth: 16/16 00:00:01 271kN >>> >>>(Yergin, MyTown 08.11.2004) >> >>It is obvious that it learned from previous abalysis. >>No change in the score or in the main line from depth 12 to depth 16. > >Check the TIME! >00.01 seconds The time is not important It is obvious that Shredder8 cannot get depth 16 in 1 seconds in this position without learning. I do not have Shredder8 but here is some analysis by Shredder7.04 on A1000 and it does not get h5. after learning I suspect that yace can also see it very fast so it proves nothing Shredder8 may be able to search deeper but not that deeper. New game, rnbq1rk1/pp1n1p1p/4p1p1/3pP1N1/1b1p1P1P/2NB4/PPP3P1/R1BQK2R w KQ - 0 1 Analysis by Shredder 7.04: 1.Qh5 gxh5 2.Nxh7 -+ (-9.90) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 1.Qh5 gxh5 2.Bxh7+ Kg7 -+ (-10.55) Depth: 1/4 00:00:00 1.Qh5 gxh5 2.Bxh7+ Kh8 -+ (-10.36) Depth: 1/5 00:00:00 1.0-0 dxc3 -+ (-5.13) Depth: 1/5 00:00:00 1.0-0 dxc3 -+ (-4.06) Depth: 1/5 00:00:00 1.0-0 dxc3 -+ (-4.04) Depth: 1/5 00:00:00 1.Bxg6 fxg6 -+ (-3.68) Depth: 1/5 00:00:00 1.Bxg6 fxg6 2.Nxe6 Bxc3+ 3.bxc3 -+ (-3.46) Depth: 1/7 00:00:00 1.a3 dxc3 2.axb4 cxb2 -+ (-2.99) Depth: 1/7 00:00:00 1.a3 Bxc3+ 2.bxc3 dxc3 -+ (-2.01) Depth: 1/7 00:00:00 1.a3 Bxc3+ 2.bxc3 dxc3 -+ (-1.95) Depth: 1/7 00:00:00 1.a3 Bxc3+ 2.bxc3 dxc3 -+ (-1.95) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00 1.a3 Qa5 2.Rb1 Bxc3+ 3.bxc3 Qxc3+ 4.Bd2 -+ (-2.06) Depth: 3/9 00:00:00 1.a3 Qa5 2.Rb1 Bxc3+ 3.bxc3 Qxc3+ 4.Bd2 -+ (-2.06) Depth: 4/9 00:00:00 1.a3 Ba5 2.b4 dxc3 3.bxa5 Qxa5 -+ (-1.98) Depth: 5/12 00:00:00 1.a3 Ba5 2.0-0 dxc3 3.Bb5 cxb2 4.Bxd7 bxa1Q -+ (-2.23) Depth: 6/13 00:00:00 22kN 1.a3 Ba5 2.b4 dxc3 3.bxa5 Nc6 -+ (-2.32) Depth: 6/13 00:00:00 29kN 1.a3 Ba5 2.b4 dxc3 3.bxa5 Qb6 4.axb6 -+ (-2.07) Depth: 7/17 00:00:00 62kN 1.a3 Ba5 2.b4 dxc3 3.bxa5 h6 4.Nf3 Qxa5 -+ (-1.86) Depth: 7/22 00:00:00 78kN 1.a3 Ba5 2.b4 dxc3 3.bxa5 h6 4.Qe2 hxg5 5.hxg5 -+ (-2.11) Depth: 8/22 00:00:01 147kN 1.a3 Ba5 2.b4 dxc3 3.bxa5 h6 4.Nf3 Qb6 5.axb6 -+ (-2.11) Depth: 8/22 00:00:01 201kN 1.a3 Ba5 2.b4 dxc3 3.bxa5 h6 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.0-0 Qb6+ 6.axb6 -+ (-1.86) Depth: 9/22 00:00:03 341kN 1.a3 Qa5 2.Rb1 dxc3 3.axb4 Qxb4 4.0-0 Qd4+ 5.Kh1 Nc6 -+ (-1.61) Depth: 9/24 00:00:04 575kN 1.a3 Ba5 2.b4 dxc3 3.bxa5 Nc5 4.h5 f6 5.exf6 h6 6.f7+ Kg7 7.hxg6 hxg5 -+ (-1.46) Depth: 10/27 00:00:09 1263kN 1.a3 Qa5 2.Rb1 Bxc3+ 3.bxc3 Nc5 4.h5 h6 5.Nf3 Qxc3+ 6.Kf1 Nxd3 7.cxd3 Nc6 8.hxg6 Kg7 9.gxf7 Qe1+ 10.Kxe1 µ (-1.22) Depth: 11/31 00:00:21 2793kN 1.a3 Qa5 2.Rb1 Bxc3+ 3.bxc3 Nc5 4.h5 h6 5.Nf3 Qxc3+ 6.Kf1 Nxd3 7.cxd3 Nc6 8.hxg6 Kg7 9.gxf7 Qe1+ µ (-0.98) Depth: 12/36 00:00:54 7198kN 1.a3 Qa5 2.Rb1 Bxc3+ 3.bxc3 Nc5 4.h5 h6 5.Nf3 Qxc3+ 6.Kf1 Nxd3 7.Qxd3 Kh7 8.Nxd4 Qxd3+ 9.cxd3 Nc6 µ (-0.93) Depth: 13/37 00:01:59 15708kN 1.a3 Ba5 2.b4 dxc3 3.bxa5 h6 4.Nf3 h5 5.Rb1 Nc6 6.0-0 Nc5 7.Be3 Qe7 8.Rb5 µ (-0.84) Depth: 14/40 00:05:02 40163kN (Blass, Tel-Aviv 09.11.2004) Uri
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