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Subject: Re: Transalations

Author: Mig Greengard

Date: 14:37:19 09/09/05

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Instead of being snide and proving my point about pointless and unfounded
bashing, perhaps you could explain exactly what ChessBase, a for-profit company,
has to gain by continuing to invest resources in winning 11-round tournaments
against other programs. Why is it bullshit for a company to move into something
more profitable, like interface design and making an engine that is a more
useful training tool for amateurs? What would they have gained had Fritz 9
entered and won with a Fischerian score of 11/11? They would put a nice story
bragging about it up on their site, put "2005 world champion!" on the box, and
sold three more copies than they otherwise would have.

Of course the rise of so many strong programs has something to do with this; the
engine market has become commoditized to the point where there is little profit
left in competing. Note the word "profit." When there were two or three top
engines it made sense to tout their power. When Junior and Shredder did so well,
ChessBase brought them in because having the top engines was important. But when
there are five or ten that all play at a similar level, it is pointless to keep
running such races. It requires massive amounts of work to stay near the top and
you get very little in return, hence my comment about diminishing returns. This
does not require a translation unless you don't speak English.

ChessBase (for which I do not speak) is obviously interested in maintaining
engine excellence. There is a nice supply of new engines that they can
cherry-pick when they like. This is good for everyone. They may well be
interested in a deal with Zappa or Fruit. Is having seven programs better than
five? What about 10? It's a marketing decision. Do you dump a known brand like
Junior because it finished fifth this year? Do you go running after every new
hot program without knowing if the programmer can deliver on time and continue
the project?

Crafty has been plenty strong enough for years to substitute for Fritz or
Shredder for anyone who's not an international master. Last I checked it was
still free, even distributed by ChessBase, and it hasn't put the guys in Hamburg
out of business. 50 or 100 Elo points is not the relevant difference now that
all the programs are over 2500. In my other Daily Dirt comments I compared all
this "ass kicking" hot air to people who want to buy a car because it has a
higher top speed than another. You think 2780 is so much better than 2765 that
you fail to realize this puts you in the sub-1% of the market for ChessBase
products. Do you think the hordes of people who buy ChessMaster are worried
about where it is on some obscure rating list?

If ChessBase can have it both ways, I'm sure they gladly will. If you win, you
brag, if you don't win, you don't brag. </obvious> But if it comes down to
choosing between another few dozen rating points and GUI, features, training
utility, and fun, it's not much of a choice if you have to sell products to pay
the rent. That's also an interesting direction, a profitable direction, and with
the engine field so glutted and balanced, (and with Hydra on the scene), the
logical direction.



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