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Subject: Re: what does the new rebel package have that chessbase engines dont?

Author: Peter Skinner

Date: 20:11:36 10/12/00

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On October 12, 2000 at 04:29:48, Mike Adams wrote:

>   Before i elaborate on my question i want to make clear I'm not putting down
>rebel or the rebel products like gambit tiger. In fact i know nothing about them
>other than some rave reveiws i've heard here.  But I cant help wonder if its
>just the fad of the moment.  Not that their not strong or interesting programs
>but when the new fritz comes out, for example, will everyones attention switch?
>   Now here is my question. I allready have Fritz 6, Hiarcs 7.32, junior 5 and
>nimzo 99.  The person who has no chess programs or just one might want to
>seriously consider the rebel package. But why should I buy it since i allready
>have four top notch engines?

Since I am a beta tester of the Rebel package, I can tell you that there are 4
extremely strong engines that you would be purchasing.

I am a big fan of the Tiger engines, as they are incredibly strong, and the fact
they play automated over the internet without an adapter. This is a strong
selling point. They also leave a very small footprint on your hard drive, which
I like.

Gambit Tiger is very strong, and a very strong attacker. I would estimate Gambit
Tiger is about 30-40 elo lower than normal Chess Tiger.

Chess Tiger was once #1 on the SSDF, and I have a very strong feeling it is
going to return there. Even with the release of Fritz 7 expected, I am afraid
that Tiger will reign. It has enormous strength at all time controls, from 0 1
matches to 40/2 matches. What more would you expect from a top notch chess
program.

With Rebel, once again you are getting as extremely good tactical monster, and
Rebel 3.0 plays positional very well. In testing with Auto 232 vs Hiarcs, it
scored 78.9% ( Computed with elostat ), and we all know that Hiarcs is very good
positionally. In matches with Fritz 6b, it scored 61.8%. So both results are
huge in the sense of strength.

So really it is a complete package. Some are going to say that with none of the
engines not using tablebases, that they are not going to compete. My tests
online at FICS, and Chess.net prove other wise.

Look at FICS, for my Species(C) account, and you can see on wimpy hardware by
today's computer chess standards, it is rank very high, and has played the best
FICS has to offer, and exeeded all my expectations.

On Chess.net, look at Webkikr(C), and see just how well it is doing. I believe
out of 250 games, it only has 11 losses, and all 11 were to Vipp-Computers(C)
running a Dual 1001Mhz computer. 4 times the hardware, yet Tiger was able to win
a few. I call that impressive.

Very impressive.



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