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Subject: Re: But Not Yet As Good As Deep Blue '97

Author: blass uri

Date: 05:05:57 07/17/00

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On July 17, 2000 at 07:22:41, Graham Laight wrote:

>I'm afraid I still feel that Junior could have come out ahead (instead of
>level)in this tournament by beating Bareev and Khalifman - and possibly by not
>losing with such apparent ease to Kramnik. Continuing the game against Anand
>might possibly have gained an extra half point as well.
>
>I think that Amir has an aspiration to make his program demonstably better than
>Deep Blue (this certainly comes across in his interviews published on the
>Chessbase Website coverage of Dortmund (www.chessbase.com) before the Kramnik
>game). If so, as a (hopefully!) impartial member of the viewing public, I'm
>afraid to say that I've yet to be convinced.
>
>As evidence, I point firstly to the games against Bareev and Khalifman. On both
>occasions when Deep Blue '97 gained an advantage over Gary Kasparov (who's a
>better player than anyone at Dortmund was), it parlayed that advantage into
>victory - whilst Deep Junior twice failed conspicuously to "slam in the lamb".
>
>I would also point to the game against Khalifman. Here we see Deep Junior lose
>to a combination of blocked centre and king attack - classic anti computer
>methods which have both been well known for a long time. They work because, in
>this case, nothing short of truly massive search depth is going to help you to
>make the correct moves.
>
>However, for both king attack and blocked centre, Deep Blue '97 demonstrated
>that it's evaluation knowledge was able to adequately handle the challenge.


I guess that the evaluation of Deep Junior could do better if Deep Junior could
search the same number of nodes.

I believe that Deep Junior is better than Deeper blue if you assume 200,000,000
nodes per second for deep Junior.

Uri



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