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Subject: Re: World Computer Chess Championship in North America.. revised

Author: Kevin Strickland

Date: 15:27:24 07/16/02

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On July 16, 2002 at 18:11:01, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>A few thoughts about this:
>
>1) If you make this an open tournament, and you get the kind of response you
>want to get, you've basically just said "commercials only", almost, since there
>are a lot of commercials and they are strong.  Almost all of the commercials are
>European.  So you've just created a tournament in North America, from which
>North American amateurs would be squeezed out.

That is not what I am trying to do. Can you imagine all the commercials and
_all_ the amateur programs attending. That would be close to 200 participants.

This is not what _is_ going to happen, I am simply looking for feedback.


>So you need to have way way more than 12 entrants.
>
>2) With this in mind, having multiple qualification tournaments doesn't make a
>lot of sense.  What you really really want to do is invite everyone.  I'd hope
>that you'd have room for everyone, but if you don't, you should invite as many
>as you can.

Want to help me compile a list of programmer email addresses to that I can cc
the email to 200 people at once? I would be more than happy to have 200 programs
here. Can you imagine the response? It would be incredible and more than likely
the biggest computer chess tournament in history.

>More is better.  Weaker programs are not a problem.  Weaker program plus
>interesting event equals motivated programmer equals stronger program.

I do not care the strength of the programs attending. In fact some of my
favorite programs are not in the top 20 amateurs or commercials.

>
>EVERYONE should be there, as long as your program can castle and handle the
>en-passant rule, no problem, in my opinion.

I agree..

>
>3) It is alright to be angry at the ICCA for not having a tournament in North
>America in recorded memory, but your event will likely fail if it is going to be
>held almost exactly the same time as the ICCA event.  I can't afford the time
>and money to go to more than one.  Probably a lot of people are in the same
>situation, so you have to take into account their schedule.

I agree that taking participants schedules into account is important. It is the
basic reasoning that I am posting details of what I would like to do to see
_exactly_ what everyone would like to see happen.

If you don't ask or show your hand how can anything be successful.

>
>4) Details such as time controls and opening book rules should be hashed out by
>the participants.  If the organizer is spending a lot of time on this, that's
>bad.  You should be spending time getting a big venue, sponsors, places for
>people to stay, and beer in the tournament hall.

That is why I removed the book rule. I would like to stick with the tournament
time control if possible. I think it makes for more interesting chess. Although
a shorter time control would allow for more rounds which in itself is
interesting.

>
>5) There is no need for a prize fund.  If you have excess cash, subsidize the
>beer.

Now finally we can agree on something. Lower cost beer is something I dream
about daily.

>
>6) "World Champion" is not a necessary title here.  There is less obvious
>animosity toward the Europeans if you call this a North American Open
>Championship, which is what it is.  If the Europeans want to call their event
>the World Championship, there is some history backing that up, and it doesn't
>matter anyway.
>
>Don't piss them off too much and it's possible that more good can come of this.

I am not trying to piss anyone off. I am trying to make the best event possible
in North America.

Kevin.



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