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Subject: Re: computer cheating print article,,,in a word....

Author: margolies,marc

Date: 20:07:11 04/02/04

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I think that the focus of bob's article is excellent.
It addresses that cheating exists-- that could make cheating harder and servers
more responsive to exposure of this.

What I most want to tackle in my response is Mr Blincoe's implicit argument...
that cheating goes on in internet chess while not addressing the fact that
cheating occurs in all forms of chess, including tournament chess--and in any
game where some persons make a living and there are prize funds.
In fact I will gladly argue that there might even be less cheating in internet
chess because there is less money to be made at that venue. I believe this is so
becuase reasonable people will not spend alot of money on tournaments where
their opponents cannot be observed effectively by themselves or impartials.

Examples of cheating in rated events occur when persons playing at their rating
floor cede games to others-- giving away far more ratings points than they can
lose themselves. This is especially nasty when it is used for scholastic
purposes by a coach to get one young kid on a top rating list.
Pairings at top events can be fixed for the final round by pre-arrainged draws
in earlier rounds. In fact a group of Armenian players nearly got away with this
at the world open one year--( I cannot and will not say more than this about
it.)

I found Bob Pawlak's article to be well-defined and useful. I hope others do
too. And I cannot be surprised that his analytical point-of-view does not
satisfy your agenda, Mr Blincoe. I would very much support any effort you might
consider to create an internet chess server 'hall of shame,' yet at the same
time there is I know, a 14-year old somewhere who thinks it will be cool to be
listed there anyway.


On April 02, 2004 at 21:42:43, steven blincoe wrote:

>Dr. Pawlak
>
>i guess i was just dissappointed in the focus of the article
>i am anxious to finally read in print ,someone admit the ugly truth that
>internet rating's are meaningless due to the rampant cheating,and that the
>incidence of cheating is very high
>
>the title on the cover page of the magazine"IS YOUR OPPONENT CHEATING?"  sort of
>implied that this was finally going to be a long-awaited "expose"
>i apologize for my rude comments and i throughly enjoyed your Software
>Sourcebook
>
>Regards
>Steve



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