Author: James Robertson
Date: 19:22:28 01/13/00
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On January 13, 2000 at 22:08:50, Eugene Nalimov wrote: >So it looks that Hsu and Kasparov's team disagree on exactly one issue: "is Hsu >DB or not". > >If Hsu is not DB, then most of the letter makes sense. However, if Hsu *is* DB, >than Kasparov just takes back his challenge. > >Hypotetical situation: Amir Ban decided that he doesn't want to distribute the >Junior throug Chessbase, and went to the other distributor. After that Kasparov >refuses to play Deep Junior in the previously agreed (at least in principle) >match, saying that he wants to play with "Chessbase Junior", not just "Junior". > >Eugene It is different. Chessbase did not fund Junior's programming; it was a complete program before they ever got their hands on it. I guess the question to answer your question is "was IBM Deep Blue or not?" James > >On January 13, 2000 at 20:20:48, Frederic Friedel wrote: > >>We received the following reaction to the open letter published by F.H. Hsu. It >>is by Garry Kasparov’s manager Owen Williams. Garry himself is on a flight to >>Holland, on his way to the GM tournament in Wijk aan Zee. The letter is also on >>Mark Crowther's site, or will be there soon. >> >>Feng Hsiung Hsu's open letter is extraordinarily misleading and he demonstrates >>a troubling ability to ignore certain responses and to take items out of context >>or make them up and put them in his letter as facts. In his Open Letter he says: >> >>"...Owen never said a straight yes or no to my question of whether Kasparov was >>interested in a match. " >> >>If you read the next paragraph, you will see his inability to read plain >>English. On Nov. 30th, I had responded as follows: >> >>"With regard to a match against a computer, Garry would be happy to consider a >>Challenge under the right circumstances with the rules carefully laid out." >> >>I went on to explain to Mr. Hsu that for Garry to consider a match, the >>prizemoney would have to be substantial, that putting his World Title on the >>line with an untried and untested opponent did not make any sense at all and >>suggested politely but firmly that Mr. Hsu would have to get his program up and >>running on his own or with a backer and then play many games including other >>computer programs and to establish himself as THE CONTENDER. >> >>Obviously, Mr. Hsu did not like my answers very much, became belligerent and >>made threats and even grandly imposed deadlines. >> >>On Dec. 3rd, amongst other things, I repeated to him: >> >>"Your tone is quite hostile and with angry people, I like to keep my responses >>simple. Garry remains ready, willing and able to play a serious match against a >>computer - under the right conditions." >> >>So persistent did Mr. Hsu become that on Dec. 21s I wrote to him: >> >>"He (Kasparov) will not be associated with an open letter like this. It is not >>the way he does business and it would run counter to discussions he is having >>with others." >> >>The next day Mr. Hsu sent a draft letter intended to go out openly soliciting >>sponsors on his and Garry's behalf! >> >>On Dec. 23rd, I replied as follows: >> >> "I think that maybe I am not expressing myself very clearly. Mr. Kasparov does >>not authorize you to say anything at all. I hope this is very clear." >> >>Incredibly, Mr. Hsu wrote once again, wanting Garry's authorization for another >>letter. >> >>My last e-mail (in exasperation) was: >> >>"You continue making statements which are your words and not Garry's. Please >>read what I have sent you very carefully." >> >>Effectively, Mr. Hsu had many strikes against him: >> >>* He behaved as if he was Deep Blue and we know he is not. >> >>* All he had was a computer chip with no organization or sponsor behind him. >> >>* Garry made it very clear that he was not going to give him time just to go on >>a "fishing trip" for a year or two to try and attract sponsors or money. >> >>* His entire presentation was speculative and without substance. >> >>* He began almost immediately to make threats and he seemed to think, like many >>before him, that all he had to do to get Garry to do his bidding, was to >>threaten "exposure." >> >>* To summarize, he had no sponsor, no money, no entity and was entirely lacking >>in any seriousness or credibility from a business point of view. >> >>Ironically, Mr. Hsu waited until two and a half years after the match to set up >>a flurry of e-mails which almost from the beginning were threatening in nature. >>On reflection, I firmly believe that he knew his offer had no credibility and he >>was looking for a little publicity and some notoriety. >> >>For any of you who still think Mr. Hsu was above-board, just put yourself in his >>position. Would you not have called up and said, "Hsu here. Let's put our >>heads together and see if we can make this thing work." >> >>That's not a good idea if all you want out of this is to have a go at THE WORLD >>CHAMPION! >> >>Owen Williams >> >>S.M.S.I. Inc., Palm Beach, FL.
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