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Subject: Re: 97 DB SSDF rating.

Author: blass uri

Date: 13:30:39 07/24/00

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On July 24, 2000 at 15:59:31, Chris Carson wrote:

>The SSDF Rating List 1997-02-05
>53540 games played by 162 computers
>                                           Rating   +- Games   Won  Oppo
>                                           ------  --- -----   ---  ----
>   1 Rebel 8.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2462   27   736   67%  2336
>   2 MChess Pro 6.0 Pentium 90 MHz           2435   27   683   62%  2350
>   3 Hiarcs 5.0 Pentium 90 MHz               2427   67   121   60%  2359
>   4 Genius 5.0 Pentium 90 MHz               2420   30   558   59%  2352
>
>
>Avg Rating for the top 4 programs = 2436.
>
>If DB had a 90% (+36 =4 -0) score against these programs,
>then the DB rating in comp vs comp games would have been 2824.
>It's TPR against Kasparov was 2862 (human vs comp).

+36 =4 -0 score is 95% score and not 90% score.

I did not read a claim that Deeper blue did +36 =4 -0 against these programs.

I remember a claim that Deep blue Junior That is weaker than Deep blue did 38:2
score against programs but I do not know exactly the name of the programs and it
is better for Hsu not to tell the names of the programs because it is better to
say nothing when you have no proof.

I know that Deep blue Junior lost 3:0 against Rebel and drew 1.5-1.5 against
Rebel-tiger.

The claim that it was a crippled version does not convince me because they could
make it clear before the games and not after the games.

My opinion is that if Deep blue Junior really plays well then IBM has nothing to
lose today from putting the real Deep blue Junior to play against top programs.


If they get only 6-4 or even 5-5 result against Deep Junior the people who do
not believe IBM that the version was crippled may change their opinion and the
people who did not hear about the fact that Deep blue Junior lost 3:0 against
Rebel will probably also not hear about the games between Deep blue Junior and
Deep Junior.

Uri



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